Originally by: Ralnik

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Edited by: Ralnik on 25/11/2009 06:23:33

Originally by: Jones Bones

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As someone who grinded these like crazy, I agree with the nerf. Too easy, not risky. Being able to select "safe" systems allows for easy farming.

Can't wait to see Navy Domi prices skyrocket \o/

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The reason people didn't do these missions in the past was because it wasn't worth while to do them with out being able to choose the location. If they change that aspect, it will go right back to no one running them once more.

btw just because your corp was farming FW missions with alts doesn't mean everyone is farming like you guys were. The simple solution to stop the excessive farming is to limit the amount of missions you can pull from each agent per day.

If they feel the need to nerf the missions that would be a "reasonable" way to do it with out screwing over people that aren't ISK farming.

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Originally by: EVIL SYNNs

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Turning 1 or 2 system in to a mission HUB... thats the problem. By being able to pick and choose where do to you missions you/and me pick the system we live in and farm the missions there.

We get our missions in ceptors, fly home jump in our HACs (yes Caldari I know your bombers) and do the missions in PvE fits. Dock job done.

What they are trying to do is force you to take that HAC out of your home system, working on the greed of players (I don't want to share my LP with you!) and get you killed.. If you don't get killed you get rewarded by LPs and the chance to undercut those LvL4 high sec mission runners.

I applaud this change.

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Originally by: Parmenides Elea

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eccm does not effect npc jams.

An ishkur would get torn appart by the missile barrage from the caldari navy.

You can do the missions in a domi but jumping that 7 or 8 systems (as preposed by the nerf) is a wee more dangerous than jumping a stealth bomber 7 or 8 jumps.

Bottom line either nerf the caldari and minmi rats to allow the gal and amarr factions to run missions in stealth bombers or buff the gal and amarr rats to stop the caldari and minmi running missions in stealth bombers.

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Originally by: Neo Gabriel

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Well whatever CCP does:

Dear CCP,

Thank you for all the LP, all these millions of LP I have left will be transformed, in due time, into billions more ISK that will finance mine and my buddies EVE career for a long time to come. We can now afford a decent Cap Fleet with Dreads and Carriers. We can fly gold plated throwaway T3, HACs and Logistics and not care about losing them. Every day I recycle a batch of those Arbalest HML to get minerals to build shuttles to Dodixie where I buy and fit new ships.

It has been a gruel month of LP farming, taking me back to my Highsec lvl4 roots. But rejoice! Salvation is at hand! December first will mark the dawn of a new age for FW lowsec! PVPers rejoice, for carebearing is no more!

Let slip the Navy Domis of war, for I will see you in Tama!







On another note, we will still farm FW missions in wolfpacks, as PERVS has been doing for a long time. So thank you for skyrocketing my LP stock value and my prospect of future earnings. I never knew I would make so much ISK in such a short amount of time.

Also thank you for getting rid of the vultures that joined FW just to farm my lp.

QQMOAR kthks bai.

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Originally by: Hidden Snake

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Originally by: Parmenides Elea

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I can catagoricly state that BYDI have never had blue status with WOLFY and as far as I am aware BYDI have never set WOLFY to blue either. Ok we we've worked together on occasion but we've never been blue.

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we have worked together .... that says all ... btw as i said s****to scum

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Originally by: chatgris

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Originally by: Muad' Dib

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Now let's get back to the subject at hand, which is how horribly overpowered these missions are - for the gallente peeps with their 30k lp / mission :).

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I would argue that it's not overpowered for two reasons

1) It's a result of how much more difficult these missions are and

2) I spent lots of time convincing fellow mission runners to run them in batches of 8-15 to increase the average completion time. We saw significant increases in average LP/mission as a result. If the caldari could work together and get over camping eha and getting missions one after another then they could have the same LP/mission.

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Originally by: Jin Nib

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It'd be nice if CCP put comma's in those egregiously unfair numbers. You know just to rub it in. Oh, and make it legible.

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Originally by: Kuolematon

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Originally by: Future Mutant

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Damn theres a lot of 12 year old girls who play this game.

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Intresting, can you point then to me?

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Originally by: Ziriko Keplit

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Originally by: Muad' Dib

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You think that the FW mission nerf is ill-deserved ?
Well, take a look here.

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Be I damned... it is so PINK!

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Originally by: Naye Nathaniel

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Originally by: Mortant Neros

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LMAO!! Watch out its a carebear emo-raging!! :) OH noes, now it will be risky for me to make billions from selling faction ships, people WILL still do the missions and they will be laughing at people like you who are too scared to venture into low sec for more than a few minutes. They will get rich on your emo tears mark my words.

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Did u ever done a single FW mission? IF yes then u know there are only 2 - 3 mission what u can do in "few minutes" like u say.
Rest is like:
fly 10-15 j in one way, into blob of WT's,
kill 3 ships, then another 3 ships, and structure at ending, and another 3 ships [mostly BattleShips].
Before u gonna hit one, u gonna be ganged by WT army,
yeah u Can say FLY WITH FW mates.
Of course but what is the point to do mission with reward
8k LP [only 3 of them are rewarded higher than 10k lp]
and 2 mln reward [1+1]
If u want to focus at mission tho u need like 3-4 friends [or FW mates]
thats split the LP point, 2k per each means nothing at all in risk/reward graph, cause before risk was HIGH, now is the highest and reward is still good but not enough to try it alone, they should even delete pointless missions and keep only 3-4 comming out, like every lv 4 mission from specific agent in high sec oO.
The safest mode is to do lv 3, but still im not gonna fly like 10-15 jumps to obtain 5k LP and spend like half hour in WT blob space.
They "nerfed" missions FW, ok but then, delete some pointless one.

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Originally by: Hidden Snake

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Originally by: Spatiopathe

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the FW have the best LP-store ever, costs are 2 at 10times less expensives..so instead make war for have good reward, they just dodge war for grind and make far more isk than other rater.

The FW is loaded of heavy LP-farmer instead to be a pvp communauty.
I think that pvp reward should be exclusively drop by killing ennemy militia player.
Actually FW design is build for goldfarmer...

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well it is more pvp then current nullsec boredom ... maybe dominion will change it

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